Hoax Claims Responsibility for California Fires
Posted by StormWarning on 25 Oct 2007 at 07:07 pm | Tagged as: Commentary, Current Affairs, Domestic Terrorism
When Mother Nature isn’t cruel enough, some fool creates a mirror website of CNN and spreads what appears to be a false rumor that a group called Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan (MECha) was claiming responsibility. Making matters worse, the rumor has spread with some very reputable bloggers (and some not so reputable and a few “unknowns” - at least to me), running with the ball. Its a hoax people! And its being spread by people without checking facts. This one made a correction thankfully given its large readership. Corrective action is always admirable. Another retraction came from this one, even if grudgingly inexplicably, so.
COMMENT: I find that the real tragedy and lunacy of this HOAX is that people were quickly willing to believe a post that perpetuated the HOAX, spread it, believe it, use it as justification of their inborn hatreds - how many people read the BOGUS “information” about MECha and then immediately agreed and started calling them all sorts of names? All too many, that’s how many! So it leads to a conclusion of utter stupidity by a commentor to one of the perpetuating sites, even after the HOAX was somewhat corrected. Here is what this intelligent human being wrote: “You know…maybe the important thing here is that even though the site is a hoax, the threat was believable. Consider _that_!” Ladies and gentlemen, we need to be afraid for this Country if people, even after being told that hoaxed information was spread (inadvertantly, if albeit sloppily), then go on and justify it based on their own prejudices.
Using a website titled CNNheadlienews.com (note the spelling of headline - aside from the fact that the real CNN Headline News’ URL is http://www.cnn.com/HLN/), the hoax makes a travesty of the law enforcement effort to determine who is actually responsible for the tragic and horrific fire that has claimed lives, property and displaced millions of people. This also does an injustice to the Hispanic community by falsely spreading information that a group such as this could have set Southern California ablaze.
While I truly dislike CNN as a news source, this is the real article on CNN.com -Â Fire chief: 25,000-acre blaze was set
ORANGE COUNTY, California (CNN) — One of the larger fires in Southern California was deliberately started by someone with apparent knowledge of arson, a fire official said Thursday.
Firefighter Luke Perisin sets a backfire Wednesday against the Santiago Fire in Live Oak Canyon, California.
The fire, which has burned more than 25,000 acres, was started in brush just off Santiago Canyon Road, not close to homes. It spread rapidly, indicating the arsonist had some knowledge of winds and other factors.
“It is a confirmed arson. There was evidence found at the scene. That is the purpose of our early declaration of it being an arson-caused fire,” Prather said. He would not describe the evidence.
Personally, I think that in what can only be described as the Internet syndrome, there are people who are reading the hoaxed information and then believing it. This follows today’s earlier reports of Fox being irresponsible: California Firestarters Killed & Arrested - Idiots at Fox Spread Rumors and my first post on this subject, Southern California Fires - Natural Disaster, Not Terrorism






Thanks for pointing out to me this was a Hoax, I will try in the future to do a better job of verifying my posts.
Thanks again
Darrell
OK, when you are right, you’re right. When I’m wrong, I’m really wrong.
I’ve updated the post, quoted you, and sent trackbacks to others involved.
I thought the mistake was mine, that I had simply typed in the wrong name, CNN ‘headline’. I thought I was having a dyslexic moment or something. The site looked SO REAL. As I say in my update, I usually look for multiple sources on a story and I did NOT do that this time. Lesson learned.
Also, I’m sorry that the debate turned into a name calling episode by some commenters at Right Truth. I hate when that happens because it takes away from the topic and sinks everyone to a new low.
Thanks for keeping after this one.
MEChA, Aztlan, take responsibility for wildfires *** HOAX *** — aliens steal relief supplies *** UPDATE ***…
UPDATE::: It seems that the MEChA taking responsibility for for setting fires website is a HOAX. This certainly fooled me because the site looked authentic. When a reader called me on it, I thought I had made a simple mistake…
I’m still not coming back. Life is too short and I don’t have to justify myself to some pig farmer.
Hi Stormwarning.
I read the comment thread at Debbie’s site. I can see why it may upset you. However, the commentator who writes in all capital letters, misspells words, and can hardly write a sentence should not be taken seriously. When I first read its comments in Debbie’s other posts I thought it was a joke, or a parody of some kind. The commentator obviously has a few loose screws.
You’re always welcome to visit, read, and comment on my blog. Have a glorious Friday.
Ortho, its all a matter of what is permitted to stand. I delete abusive comments. I’ve done that here many times before, and will continue to do so. I believe that everyone has the right to an opinion. But opinions are not fact.
And as I’ve written before, I have no need to justify myself to some fool who cannot express himself intelligibly. I also have no intention of contributing where such people are allowed to spew. Abuse is abuse, whether by the abuser or the facilitator.
I continue to read your stuff. I only wish that I actually had spare time to read some of the obviously interesting books and such that you’ve recommended. I simply don’t have enough time in my day.
Thanks for the heads up. I’ve updated my blog.
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RedThread, you are quite welcome
Please come back whenever.
I will, your blog is very interesting.
Really, thank you very much for the warning. I hate getting hoaxed.
http://www.fbi.gov/page2/oct07/wildfires102607.html
Looks like the FBI fell for the Hoax? They are looking for the arsonist now.
Dear Googlite: The FBI and ATF have been involved since the 2nd day. The fact that the FBI is looking for the arsonist is far from being a revelation.
Do you think that by finding this article on the FBI website that you’ve gotten to the bottom of the identity of what lunatic planted the hoaxed story that the MECha people had claimed responsibility?
Or is it that when you’re from Maryland that following a link from cnnheadlienews (which is a hoaxed site) turn you into a super sleuth?
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Looks like a 10-year-old arsonist has been fingered for sparking the Buckweed blaze. I wonder if the boy arsonist has ties with MECha or Al-Quaeda?
Today, I flipped through my copy of The U.S. Army/Marine Corps Counterinsurgency Field Manual. Printed on pages 115-117 is a long table of “Examples of insurgent tactics.” One “tactic” is the use of “hoaxes.” “Hoaxes,” the Field Manual claims, divert resources of time, effort, and energy; and can cause economic losses. But, most importantly, “False alarms dull the analytical and operational efficiency of key security personnel, thus degrading readiness.”
What, in your opinion, shall be the aftermath of this hoax?
Hoaxes are an important tactic. Witness the “dirty bomb” hoax experienced in New York City a few weeks back prompted by the American Taliban, Adam Gadhan, the publicity director for al Qaeda.
There is a strong feeling that the response and reactions of the NY City EMgt people, the police and fire were watched closely…at least in that instance, “they” (whoever “they” are) learned alot. The same holds for the Calfornia fires (even Katrina). Natural disasters like the fires provide a looking glass view of how we react. Katrina certainly could have taught “them” about difficulties in evacuation procedures for example.
I take the position that everything, whether done by the “bad guys” or started by lightening or a 10 year old, offer learning opps. for the “bad guys.”